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Nicholas Gruen's avatar

In the two pieces I'll link to below, I theorise that the quality of the public goods of a profession, including how quality is assessed, effects the extent to which science tends to virtue or vice.

https://www.griffithreview.com/articles/trust-competition-delusion-gruen/

https://www.themandarin.com.au/120036-academia-from-inefficient-effectiveness-to-efficient-ineffectiveness/

That's where I'd go if I were theorising about what the adoption of virtue metascience and how to improve virtue as an engine of good science.

I'm also mindful of Michael Polanyi's marvellous comments on this.

"The quickest impres­sion on the scientific world may be made not by publishing the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but rather by serving up an interesting and plausible story composed of parts of the truth with a little straight invention admixed to it. Such a composition, if judiciously guarded by interspersed ambigui­ties, will be extremely difficult to controvert, and in a field in which experiments are laborious or intrinsically difficult to reproduce may stand for years unchallenged. A considerable reputation can be built up and a very comfortable university post be gained before this kind of swindle transpires, if it ever does. If each scientist set to work every morning with the intention of doing the best bit of safe charlatanry which would just help him into a good post, there would soon exist no effective standards by which such deception could be detected. A community of scientists in which each would act only with an eye to please scientific opinion would find no scientific opinion to please. Only if scientists remain loyal to scientific ideals rather than try to achieve success with their fellow scientists can they form a community which will uphold these ideals. The discipline required to regulate the activities of scientists cannot be maintained by mere conformity to the actual demands of scientific opinion, but requires the support of moral conviction, stemming from devotion to science and prepared to operate independently of existing scientific opinion."

This was written in (I think) 1946 - certainly around then.

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Always love a provocative Tim Hwang essay, even if I disagree.

My biggest question: how would virtue metascience decide between alternative institutional structures? Presumably it's about which structure is more scientifically virtuous. But I'm a bit confused about how to evaluate virtue on that level, i.e. how to translate individual scientific virtues to the institutional/societal level. Putting aside that measuring virtue in individuals already sounds hard, I imagine there are many ways to organize a group of equally virtuous scientists, so the structure's virtue can't just depend on the virtue of the individuals within.

The closest thing to this I see in the essay is the hint that FROs etc might be better than the status quo because they are a form of experimentation (a scientific virtue). But that still doesn't answer what makes one institutional structure more virtuous than another. So what does?

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